郁闷！被女佣中介鄙视了

longyun

哇。
领教拉，现在不敢去请女佣了，自己受不了这个气！

flyheart

一直觉得新加坡的服务素质还ok， 不管他们心里怎么鄙视， 通常表面上都会装出谦虚的服务态度，这样的中介还没听说过。
我那时请女佣， 也是改来改去很多次， 到最后我都有些不耐烦了， 不过他们还是听我们把牢骚发完， 再给我解释。虽然不是太好， 至少职业素质还是有的。牢骚归牢骚， 最后拿了他们的service， 他们也是很开心帮忙， 一些女佣的事情， 他们也会出面当黑脸给女佣约束，这样还不错。
前几天刚收到他们的一份信，有朋友去他们的中介找女佣， 可以免100的中介费。 我的女佣来家1个月， 当时的中介费是288+保险+入境体检。
有需要的朋友可以向我索取100的voucher。
我的女佣中介是budget maid， 可以上网查查， 好像有很多branch。

大刚需

单纯做家务还是OK的,起辅助作用.老人带孩子,女佣做家务.两不累

虽然我已经换过几个女佣, 失望了几次了, 但是还是需要

糖☆

我的女佣上个月才来，印尼人，是请的没经验的，工资360，就在三巴旺的sun plaza请的，看来可能是我的运气还行啦，目前看来她勤勤恳恳，对宝宝也不错，不懂以后会不会"原形毕露"，还是有点点担心。

celeste

我跟邻居请的都是budget maid介绍的女佣。我以前请的是月薪380的菲佣（有四年新加坡工作经验有dayoff）。我邻居上个月请的是月薪380的印佣（没有工作经验没有dayoff)。我邻居两个月前签完女佣合同之后两三天，印尼政府就要求涨女佣的工资，所以印佣的工资也全面上涨了。我上个女佣两个月前送回菲律宾了。我再去budgetmaid找新的女佣，他们给我看的资料，全部上涨了。菲佣现在至少400（没有任何经验）430（有工作经验）450（有新加坡工作经验），印尼比菲佣更贵，要450到480了。

看到你们说的情况，不知道是不是budget maid狮子大开口？但是这个工资不是给女佣的吗？ 难道中介还能从中抽成？

celeste

longyun 发表于 10-2-2011 12:42
哇。
领教拉，现在不敢去请女佣了，自己受不了这个气！

唉，送走上个女佣的时候，我也觉得解放了，自由了，不再受女佣的气了。结果后来孩子病了一个多月，每天晚上闹，我跟老公身体都架不住了，快累垮了，家里又没有其他人可以帮一下，想想还是请个女佣吧，唉。

celeste

我上网查了一下，不是所有的中介都给女佣提工资，是其中17家中介给女佣提了工资。看来budgetmaid属于其中一家，所以其他小中介还是原来的价格。
Pay Hike as supply of maids dry up (23 Jan 2011)
Jan 23, 2011
Pay hike as supply of maids dries up
More agencies say they plan to increase salaries of new Indonesian domestic helpers
By Teh Joo Lin , Neo Wen Tong and Lim Yi Han


A week after news that 17 major maid agencies have banded together to raise the salaries of new Indonesian maids from $380 to $450, more agencies say they will follow suit.

If the drive gains traction, the pay hike - said to be the highest one-time increment for the Indonesians - could well set a new benchmark for Indonesian maids' salaries here.

Maid agencies say they have no choice: Supply of maids to Singapore has been drying up as more of them look to places that offer better pay like Hong Kong and Taiwan.

Singapore's stringent requirements - a minimum age requirement of 23 and an English entry test - have also not gone down well with potential maids.

Last week, news broke that 17 agencies - said to be major players - would be hiking the pay for Indonesian maids to ease the supply crunch.

Of the 30 maid agencies The Sunday Times interviewed, 18 said they would raise salaries of Indonesian maids. Eight said they were taking the wait-and-see approach, and four were not in favour.

These agencies said they were either pulling out of the Indonesian maid market or still discussing with their Indonesian labour suppliers before deciding.

Those who have jumped on the bandwagon include Comfort Employment director Benny Liew, who said seven in 10 customers want Indonesian maids.

'It's market forces. If there is someone who can offer a higher price and we don't match it, we will lose out,' he said.

Those agencies interviewed said they have already begun to supply maids on the higher pay or are in the process of informing prospective employers.

So far, employers have been willing to shell out the extra amount because the demand for Indonesian maids far outstrips the supply, they said.

Maids from Indonesia and the Philippines are the most sought after by employers, making up the majority of the estimated 196,000 maids here.

But other agencies and employers are suspicious of the move by the 17 agencies.

They doubt a $70 raise can reverse a long-running trend of declining supply and question if the move benefits the middlemen more than the maids - even though Mr Desmond Chin, group director of Nation Employment, one of the 17 agencies, has stated otherwise.

An agency operator, who declined to be named, wondered if the pay rise was a ploy to maintain profit margins ahead of the revised Employment Agencies Act to be implemented in April.

The new law puts the cap on the fee payable by the worker to the agency, to one month's salary per year of approved contract.

Opponents also suggested that the move was tantamount to price-fixing, given that the salary of the maid should be a private arrangement between her and her employer based on current market forces.

This is why the Association of Employment Agencies, as a trade body, cannot endorse the move, 'lest it be interpreted as an anti- competitive act', said president Shirley Ng.

When contacted, the Competition Commission of Singapore said it cannot say if any specific behaviour is anti-competitive without a thorough investigation. The spokesman did not say if an investigation was under way.

Mr Chin has rebutted the allegation of price-fixing.

He said yesterday: 'Even among the 17, not all of us agreed on $450. Each of us has our own agreements with the suppliers.'

The move did not imply that all Indonesian maids must have the same salary, which should be commensurate with their experience, abilities and qualifications, he added.

He also maintained that the move does not increase the profits of maid agencies, saying: 'It's for the good of the maids and the employers in the long term.'

Indonesian maids first became popular in the 1990s; they were an alternative source after the Philippines banned the deployment of maids in March 1995 over the hanging of Filipino maid Flor Contemplacion, who was convicted for the murders of her fellow maid and her four-year-old charge.

Supply has dwindled over the years as more families here look to domestic help, while other countries compete with Singapore for maids.

Employers in Hong Kong pay maids $650, while the Taiwanese pay them $800. In Singapore, their pay has gone from just $230 to $380 after more than a decade.

Recent developments have worsened the supply crunch.

A recent tightening of Philippine laws on citizens working abroad led to a plunge in the number of new maids from the Philippines, and forced some employers to switch to Indonesians.

Maids from countries such as Myanmar and Sri Lanka remain relatively unpopular, compounding the problem.

Speculation that the Indonesian government will lift a freeze on the supply of maids to Malaysia, imposed following several maid abuse cases, may also account for the latest pay hike.

When contacted, the Indonesian Embassy's labour attache Isnarti Hafan supported the move. The higher pay will shorten the time the maids need to clear their placement fees, she said.

Mr Rusjdi Basalam, secretary-general of the Indonesian Labour Exporters Association, said the move will attract higher interest and bolster supply.

'This would help turn around the currently declining interest of people wanting to work overseas. Media coverage on abuse on Indonesian migrant workers have scared them away,' he told The Sunday Times.

But the agencies themselves conceded that the new pay was still a long way from overseas salary levels, while the entry test and age requirement remained bottlenecks.

Maid agent Ronnie Toh, who said the pay increase might boost supply by 20 per cent, remarked: 'It'll be helpful, but I don't think it's enough.'

Association of Employment Agencies' Ms Ng said this latest move is a 'signal' that new maid sources such as Cambodia, Vietnam and Laos need to be considered.

She said: 'We cannot be relying on two main sources - Indonesia and the Philippines. Once these two countries turn off the tap, our economy will immediately suffer.'

Agency owners say the pay hike may lead to maids from other countries asking for higher pay and existing Indonesian maids threatening to terminate their contracts unless their employers top up their salaries.

Employers interviewed appear resigned to the prospect of paying more.

Business manager Joycelyn Ong, 30, who hired her Indonesian maid a month ago, said: 'If she really wants to leave, then I will have to give in and pay that extra $100, because finding a new maid is a lot of trouble and I have to pay the same amount anyway.'

But Indonesian maids interviewed said that money is not their sole concern.

Ms Sumarni, 39, who like many Indonesians, goes by just one name, earns $360 a month after a 12-year career but she is not complaining because she gets days off and enjoys a good relationship with her employer.

'It is still better to work for my employer again, because it's been so many years, and I won't know if my new employer will be good or not,' she said.

cjling99

celeste 发表于 10-2-2011 21:58
我跟邻居请的都是budget maid介绍的女佣。我以前请的是月薪380的菲佣（有四年新加坡工作经验有dayoff）。我 ...

女佣的前6个月工资是进中介的口袋？....

liyuer

我家的来了8个多月吧，2 DAYS OFF， 今年过年给她涨了10元， 人挺好挺勤快的， 看起来也喜欢小孩子。。。有天聊天，大概就是说到邻居家印尼女佣做满2年回去了，那孩子一直哭闹啊，邻居很想续约，但人家不要来了，说是要到台湾或者香港。还说现在新请的印尼女用起价450了~~~~ 是不是也是对我一个暗示呢？呵呵，我说：是啊，香港政府不收税呢，就女佣工资来说高不少的，我也赞成你以后去香港呢，我教你多做几样粤菜。 我家女佣说：不要啦，香港太冷了，我还是喜欢新加坡。。。

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