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[PSLE小六] 王瑞杰:小六会考制度将作出调整

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发表于 20-8-2013 20:21:50|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
Fiona2004 发表于 20-8-2013 18:19
希望部长的任期到2020后,这个才有可能呀!

别改!他爱做到什么时候就做到什么时候吧,哈哈
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发表于 20-8-2013 21:12:51|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 刀如水 于 20-8-2013 21:14 编辑

小六会考只分ABC 家长担心A+被挤掉
20/08/2013on 联合晚报

小六会考只分ABC,有家长担心孩子虽考到A+好成绩,却被只考到A-次好成绩者挤掉,进不了理想中学。

一名网友在民情联系组(REACH)网站上说,小六生现在是考4科,一般来说,男生的数理成绩比语文科优异,也就是说,他们能在小六会考中考取到高的积分T-score,是因为优越的数理成绩弥补了语文科的较低分数。

新的等级制度是让同个成绩等级的申请者,成功报读心仪中学。换句话说,等级制度无法知道哪个学生考得最好,而且等级相同的学生要是争取同个名额,就可能出现积分本来更高的那个,会被积分低过他的学生挤出局。2


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想死我们了。。  详情 回复 发表于 20-8-2013 23:23
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发表于 20-8-2013 21:38:53|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
刚刚看了看政府的民情联系组网站,看到了一面倒的质疑声和反对声。晚报只是报道了其中一篇比较理性的留言。


这篇留言是这样的:

Generally, I think this is a very good National Day Rally speech, especially the closing part whereby PM Lee envisioned the next 20 to 30 years plan for Singapore.  I think few governments in the world have that type of confidence, and sense of responsibility, to think so far ahead.  This is really the strength of the PAP government which it can put to its best advantage.  

Now back to PSLE.  I don't agree with PM Lee's question whether 1 point is so important.  It is important because there are limited number of places in the top schools, and the incremental 1 point could be a deciding factor who gets the last place.

When I was in O Level, I took 9 subjects even though I only need the best of 6 subjects for JC enrolment.  Other than English and Chinese, I have many "contingency" subjectsgchinesese I did badly in one.  For example, at my time, I need to have a humanity subject, hence I studied both literature and history, so that I can use the best grade of the two subjects.  Even for A levels, although I would have required only 3 "A" level subjects to enrol into local university, I took 4 subjects as "safety net".

Currently, our Primary Six students only take 4 subjects, all of which are important foundation for future education and success in life.  I cannot imagine how we can adopt a PSLE system whereby we will only recognize 3 of the 4 subjects, as it will fundamentally rock our education system and affect the quality of students who graduate from this system.

Assuming that we still take into account all 4 subjects, without the points but mere banding, what will be the consequences?

For simplicity, assume there are 2 P6 Students A and B vying for the last position in Reputable Institution (RI).  Regardless of what PM Lee has said tonight, the fact is  there is only 1 last position in RI.  Student A has 261, whereas Student B has 260.  In the current scheme, Student A will qualify for the last position, and this is meritocracy as its best without any 关系 to speak of.

Now we move away from the point system, but to grading system.  Both Students A and B are high achievers, and being typical high-achieving Singaporean boys, their talents are skewed towards Maths and Science, and lesser towards languages.  They are able to obtain the high aggregate PSLE scores because their high Maths and Science scores make up for the less stellar English and Chinese results.

Now the side effect: Under the new scheme, it is probable that the student who secure the last spot in RI is not Student A or B, but Student C (who has a score of 255), because he is a average but consistent performer for all 4 subjects.

Who will be most successful in future?  Nobody knows.
Who is more deserving?  Probably Student A?

What we have done is simply to move the goal post.  The new goal and our message to PSLE students is:  You must be a well rounder in all 4 subjects, need not be the best in each, BUT, all 4 subject must be good.  This has to be.

I was from Reputable Institution.  I believed in the Singapore meritocracy system, because I was brought up in a 3 room HDB flat, and receiving good education on my own merit with no external help has helped me to break this poverty chain.  

Still, I speak like our Acting Minister Mr Chan Chun Sing who is 3 years my senior, and my son probably speaks like me.  During my school days, I excelled in Maths and Science, and my son is like me.  

My message is:  The proposed system will be unfavourable to those middle and low income family, because the children from these families can be intelligent and hardworking, but they will be at a disadvantage in the language subjects, especially since oral has a very high weightage.  And their family will probably not have the luxury to send their children for tuition for all 4 subjects.

Besides, the proposed system will simply cause more stress and anxiety for parents and students.  Instead of fighting hard to get every additional mark, everyone will be fighting hard to be good in all 4 subjects, which is probably tougher to achieve by itself.

Even all these talks about expanding DSA -  Doesn't the MOE know that participating in numerous DSA is a very stressful exercise for both parents and students?  Finally, parents and students become confused whether they should focus on DSA or PSLE, not to mention the disappointment that follows any failure.

I think MOE should have more confidence in its current system.  As a consolation, it is comforting to know that the details have yet to be finalized. MOE should give some thoughts over  the implementation, especially how to give due recognition to students who did extremely well in certain PSLE subject.  

[In "A" level days, there are S papers.  Are we trying to implement the same for PSLE?
If not, shouldn't we simply stick to the current system?]
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发表于 20-8-2013 22:20:23|来自:新加坡 来自手机 | 显示全部楼层
5095 发表于 20-8-2013 20:21
别改!他爱做到什么时候就做到什么时候吧,哈哈

哪位大侠查一查前任教育部长尚达曼,黄永宏等任期都做了几年?大致就可推算了。
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发表于 20-8-2013 22:26:11|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
Fiona2004 发表于 20-8-2013 22:20
哪位大侠查一查前任教育部长尚达曼,黄永宏等任期都做了几年?大致就可推算了。 ...

说笑罢了,应该挺不了那么久的,他好像还是下一代的核心成员?

可以做个有智慧的领导,把问题留给下一任去解决

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核心成员? 那我还是考虑移民吧. 不是教育制度这么简单, 是新加坡能否继续繁荣的问题  详情 回复 发表于 21-8-2013 08:32
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发表于 20-8-2013 22:27:45|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
刀如水 发表于 20-8-2013 21:38
刚刚看了看政府的民情联系组网站,看到了一面倒的质疑声和反对声。晚报只是报道了其中一篇比较理性的留言。 ...

哈哈,难得的一面倒。
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发表于 20-8-2013 23:26:06|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
不记得他讲过什么有逻辑的话,除了最近说的,还是引用国外评论:英国降低了考试标准之后,不久就后悔了;到现在也没办法把教育素质提高回去。。。
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发表于 21-8-2013 00:43:51|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
我儿子说在新加坡分好坏班的教育体制下,想学的学生多学点,不想学少学点的也没人逼,他觉得同学大家都很快乐。所以似乎并非大家都觉得压力大,只是一小撮人觉得如此罢了。再说了,会去参加那个所谓的对话会的人都是对现有制度有意见的,没有意见基本上就很少人去了,所以那些对话会上提出的意见并不一定代表绝大数人的想法。
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发表于 21-8-2013 08:30:59|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
教调,你的柔情我有点不懂
《联合早报》2013年08月21日 黎宁

教育政策战略调整,本文简称教调。周日晚,教调面世,闻之激动了五分钟,尔后困惑了五十分钟,最后忧虑了五小时难以入眠。

教调一,小六会考分数采用等级制,这个调整目的何在呢?坊间传说具体公布分数做法太细微了,让敏感的家长和孩子多了一些面子上的心理压力,而且以前也不是这样做法,所以不是很有必要,干脆改回分等级录取的老路吧。

困惑来了。从家长角度看,压力根本不在分数,而在于能否进顶尖中学的校门。至于孩子是以状元成绩还是最低录取分数线进去,又有多重要呢?又有几人在乎呢?毕竟人生是场马拉松谁都懂,进校前半分要命,进校后来日方长。能在巨人肩膀上起跳就是阶段性胜利。

改行等级制,家长的目标就是把心仪学校的最低录取分数线改为第一等级学校的入围分数线而已,两者有实质区别吗?谁都不会在教调下放松,因为没人敢保证孩子能够杀入第一等级学校的入围分数线,进校和进第一等级同理,所以超强压力的补习风气仍会继续。同时,入围后的分配还在减压的名义下,强行剥夺了家长孩子对心仪学校的自主选择权。教调客观上漠视学校学生事实上的强弱不均,而去追求表面的绝对公平,这恰恰就是人为制造不公。这样做又会挫伤多少努力上进好学生的积极性呢?

教调二,在提前收生计划下,增加领袖能力,坚毅品格等类别。把门开大,广纳不同类型学生。原则正确,做法堪忧。领袖能力如何体现?坚毅品格如何证明?这些都是很难量化成为标准方便执行的东西。

看看现在领袖能力的评估,通常就是模范生,或者学生团体的负责成员。可是,小学模范生和社团骨干的标准是什么?以笔者孩子就读的特选学校实践来看,模范生在小二就由班主任定了,孩子反映模范生最大特点就是听老师话,而且是不管何事,只会说“是”。现在孩子小四,班里有5个模范生,可成绩并不是前5名,随着年龄渐大,自我管理上也具备此年龄该有的特征,说白了,就是顽皮和成绩一般。这样的学生已经无法胜任学生模范的角色,但是,校方认为,这个荣誉给了就是给了,不能收回,哪怕他们已经不及格。实际上,能上不能下的机制就是僵化,使其他进步的学生无位子晋升。在这样机制下成长的模范生,又凭什么服众呢?如果教调让这些“学生领袖”更上一层楼,那对其他名符其实的好学生来说,何尝不是一种潜在伤害呢?

至于坚毅品格的认定,教调将其纳入成为顶尖中学招生标准之一,还真是别出心裁。人的额头没有长“勇”字,如何证明他们的坚毅顽强?民歌都有唱:“没有一番寒澈骨,哪得梅花扑鼻香!”现代孩子谁不是家中宝贝?新加坡的现实环境哪有机会给他们生活考验,以证明其坚毅不拔意志超强呢?如果能够就何为坚毅品格搞出一个客观、可信、可服众的考核标准,那教调也算为教育事业立下一功了。

教调出台,无疑是对教育在民间所积怨气的善意回应,试图展现爱民如子,聆听民意,闻过即改的开明形象。可是,为改而改是没有意义的。教调必须要有针对性,有可操作性,否则,就变成好心办坏事,给民怨火上浇油罢了

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顶起!  详情 回复 发表于 3-9-2013 21:51
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发表于 21-8-2013 08:34:48|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
站长的话
《联合早报》2013年08月21日


小六会考是许多家长的牵挂,考试期间更是家长最难熬的时候,对小六考生来说,面对的是说不出口的升学压力,因此近年来社会出现一股废除小六会考的舆论声浪,但政府已表明小六离校会考制度不应也不会废除,因为它是用来评估学生学习成果的有效方式。

在经过近两年的广泛讨论后,李显龙总理在国庆群众大会上宣布小六会考成绩鉴别制度,将从积分制改为等级制,希望没有了分数做比较,能降低小六会考对学生和家长造成的压力,以及避免过度竞争的现象。

然而,这项教育政策的调整其实是回到过去的做法,而家长现在更关心的是,调整后中学的收生方式会如何,是不是最后又回到原点,制造另一种竞争的压力呢?还是达不到有效地落实全人教育理念的目的?

小六会考采用等级制,改的意义和价值何在?是为学生和家长而改?还是为改而改?相信还是有争论的。

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