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[股票] 【股票】受版主邀请谈谈我30年炒股的体会和对股票的看法

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发表于 27-10-2009 16:37:20|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层 |阅读模式
本帖最后由 老鼠爱小米 于 27-10-2009 20:12 编辑

My Views on Share Trading

1.        Introduction

a.        I am not one of those so-called “very experienced”, “expert” or “professional” traders. With almost 30 years on the stock market, I’m no novice too.
b.        The first third (or half?) of this period, I was a contributor to the market because I lost a lot more than I made. My savings gone, my monthly salary (less living expenses) also gone. On top of that, a good part of my investible CPF also gone.  Adding salt to wound, I borrowed (small amounts of course) from colleagues. Fortunately, I was wise enough not to resort to loan sharks, because that will be a deadly route.
c.        I became sober after that disastrous period. So, I tamed down. I hardly traded, except on medium-term blue chips strongly recommended in Stock Analyst reports. During this period, I slowly built up my bank & CPF savings which I used for Long-term Investment in later years.
d.        Finally, I understood the virtue of investment after I read the first book on Warren Buffett’s investment principles. Then I bought a few more books on him.
e.        Though not able to follow his principles fully, I have already recouped a good part of my past losses. Caution: There is no magic in his principles. You need:
i.        discipline,
ii.        patience,
iii.        timing, and
iv.        knowledge of the companies you buy.
f.        Recently, I have put aside a very small pool of funds to experiment on short-term trading (no Contra, please) based on a combination of the following factors:
i.        Candlestick reversal patterns,
ii.        RSI or Stochastic (I prefer RSI),
iii.        MACD,
iv.        at least 6-month chart landscape to spot resistance & support,
v.        MA of Traded Value,
vi.        volume momentum,
vii.        PE & RPE, and
viii.        Broad market conditions.
g.        A word of caution: No technical indicator or combination of indicators can guarantee that the projected price trend is going to be successful. Also, different people looking at the same indicators may have different views. If there are mathematical formulae that can predict prices accurately, then there will be no poor people. There are many charting services that can provide these technical information.



2.        Investment & Trading Strategies
a.        Long-term – 5 years or more (what Warren Buffett advocates)
b.        Medium-term – 1-3 years (my view)
c.        Short-term – less than a year
d.        Gambling – contra basis without enough funds to pick up




3.        Risks & Benefits
a.        There is no such thing as ‘no risk’.
b.        Based on the strategies above, ‘Long-term’ has the lowest risk provided you follow the rules. The risks are war, some natural disasters, and unforeseen events like what happened to Lehman Brothers.
c.        The risk increases as you come down the list.
d.        Gambling has the highest risk. This is equivalent to gambling in casinos. You certainly anticipate the stock price to shoot up when placing the Buy order. Who won’t? But if it doesn’t, you are forced to sell the stock even its price has fallen a lot.
e.        When you place an order to buy, you need to weigh the chances of making a profit against a possible loss during your targeted investment time-frame. Profit and Loss should take into consideration the amount of brokerages and fees you have to pay.



4.        Long-term Investment
a.        Don’t buy a company unless you can keep it for 5-7 years or more. The company’s fundamentals must be good.
i.        Good projected Growth Rate (Revenue, ROE & ROA) at least within your investment time-frame.
ii.        Healthy Operations Cash Flows in the last few years.
iii.        Reasonable Debt-Equity ratios.
iv.        The company has excellent competitive advantage over its rivals.
b.        Buy only when its valuation is low.
c.        Best time to buy is when few people are buying. This is usually during a stock bubble burst, or there is some kind of financial crisis. The last one was the Financial Crisis kicked off by the subprime mortgage loans. Before that was the Asian Financial Crises. If I’m not wrong, it started from Thailand when the Baht went into difficulty.
d.        Best time to sell is when the broad market becomes too hot, valuation is unbelievably high. There are information and feeling from the ground that business is not as rosy as was reported. And there are too many people jumping into the bandwagon thinking that they can make easy money from the stock market. I usually get this kind of feedback from wet markets, coffee shops and other public places.
e.        From a superstitious point of view, this low-to-high cycle usually takes about 7 years (the so-called ‘7-year itch’).



5.        Medium-term Investments
a.        These are variations of Long-term Investment with a shorter time-frame.
b.        Reasons why you select these strategies are:
i.        Your investment capital has a maturity date. You need them for other purposes some time in the future.
ii.        Based on the ‘7-year itch’ believe, you think the next market crash won’t be too long from now.



6.        Short-term Trading Strategy
a.        I believe many professional Traders adopt this strategy.
b.        The Trades are based on a combination of factors:
i.        News & Information from their inner circle.
ii.        Analysts’ reports.
iii.        Announcements
iv.        Charts & indicators as I have mentioned in (1.f).



7.        Gambling Strategy
a.        Honestly, I should not call this a strategy because there isn’t any.
b.        You buy with the hope that the price will rise about 5% within 3-4 days so that your in-pocket (net) profit is more than at least 5 times the amount of brokerage & other fees you have to pay otherwise you become a ‘slave’ to the brokerage firms.
c.        You buy based on information you got from:
i.        Remisiers. I believe it is not their intention to give you information about a stock that will rise a few % within 3-4 days. The stock may rise within a week or two.
ii.        Gossips from friends. Many of them unreliable. You take a bet. Last year or so, I got one ridiculous tip that a particular stock will ‘shoot up’ in a few days. Yes, it did. $0.005, not enough to cover brokerage. Fortunately, I didn’t bite because I extracted their Financial Report from SGX website and found that the company has negative capital. That is to say, the accumulated losses over the years have exceeded the entire paid-up capital. There are some reliable ones, but they usually come in too late for you. By the time you hear it, the price has already gone up too high, probably in the RSI region of 75-80%. You jump into it? You may end up holding the ball.
iii.        Threads from internet stocks & shares forums. Those without basis are more or less like those mentioned above. However, some techies may show you technical analysis like charts showing support & resistance, volume analysis, price momentum and others. Well, it is a question of whether they tell you at the right time. Remember, there is no guarantee that the forecast will be successful. Even if it is successful, remember you are buying with Contra, you have little time and patience to wait for the climb unless it is a shooting star and you catch it at the right moment.
iv.        Real-time displays of
I)        Top 20 Gainers
II)        Most Active Counters
III)        Hottest Stocks



8.        Lemmings Phenomenon
a.        The Longman Exam Dictionary defines “Lemmings” as a small animal that looks like a rat. Lemmings are known for following each other in large numbers and killing themselves by jumping off cliffs into the sea.
b.        In at least 2 of the books on Stock Market I have read, I came across the mention of Lemmings Phenomenon. The stock market investing public is like Lemmings. When a group of people chase up a stock, many of the others will follow not knowing the consequences. The smart few will get out fast and survive richer, but the rest will have broken bones.
发表于 27-10-2009 16:39:36|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
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本帖最后由 老鼠爱小米 于 27-10-2009 20:15 编辑

9.        Averaging Down
a.        Ha! This is interesting. I had a wonderful experience on this ‘trading strategy’.
b.        I bought a stock @ about $4.90. It came crashing down when the broad market experienced a major correction. Thinking that it was a smart move to average down at that time when the price was around $4.00, I bought some more. To my surprise, the stock continued downwards when the broad market started to recover. After checking with some friends (some of them remisiers), I decided to average down further @ around $3.00 reducing my final average price to $3.55. You know what happened? I sold the stock many years later @ $0.11. A year after I sold off my stake, some of my friends who were still hanging on to it told me that it was trading @ between $0.05 and $0.06. I am sure many of you will ask, “Why so stupid?” In retrospect, yes it was a stupid move.
c.        Why average down on a particular stock? Can’t you find other stocks in the market which are as good or even better than this one? If you are disciplined enough and move yourself away from the frontline, then you will have a clearer head and see the picture better. This is the emotional aspect of stock trading.



10.        Emotions
a.        If you are not disciplined enough and keep your head clear, emotions will overcome you.
b.        In the book “Japanese Candlestick Charting Techniques” by Steve Nison, the author urged his reader to try paper trading. That is trading simulation without real money. Then put real money into the market. Compare the two situations. You will find the real situation can overwhelms you with “tension, anticipation and anxiety”. It will alter the way you trade and how you see the market.
c.        Set up a set of rules to guide yourself so that you don’t get carried away.



11.        I observe the following Rules
a.        Broad Market Condition has great influence on most stocks, even the fundamentally strong ones. Not that we don’t trade in quiet markets, but we have to be very selective, control our commitment and preserve our capital. Be watchful for a rebound (easier said than done, right?) I look at the following together:
i.        Daily volume and its moving averages. Low volume shows that there is a lack of commitment from investors. However, be mindful that major market crashes has high volume too. Therefore, you have to read this together with the STI direction.
ii.        STI and its moving averages.
b.        Buy Low, Sell High
i.        I am not so ambitious as to try achieving this. No one can. If it happens, it is sheer chance, unless you are executing an insider trade which is illegal.
ii.        I am learning how to use a combination of the technical tools mentioned in (1.f) to recognize turning points of price movements.
I)        Candles as everyone knows attempts to predict reversals. But several authors recommend us to wait for confirmation. That means we won’t be buying at the lowest. So what? What is important is whether we have a good probability of making a profit.
II)        Some authors suggest we wait for MACD to cross above the Signal as a confirmation. I personally prefer to take more risk to make an entry when the histogram converges upwards towards zero.
c.        Company profile
i.        I am a low-risk taker because I cannot afford it.
ii.        Even if it is not a blue chip, I prefer companies having profitable track records.
iii.        Reasonable PE and RPE are ideal. But sometimes we have to look beyond the PE for exceptional cases. Some solid property firms are having negative EPS for the year ending 2008 or 2009 because of the bad market condition last and early this year.
d.        Traded Value of the Stock
i.        Can you imagine putting in $10,000 to buy a stock, and the average daily traded value is only $100,000? You are playing with only 9 other persons assuming they trade the same amount as you!
e.        Contra
i.        I make it a point that I will not buy unless I have the ready cash to pay up. I am not a gambler.
ii.        I will only do a contra trade if I think the price is ripe before it is overdue, or I decide that I have bought the wrong stuff.
iii.        Why be forced to sell when the stock has potential to rise further? Sell and buy back? By doing so, you are providing the capital and allow the rich broker firms have a cut of your profit for free. It is not a Win-Win situation.



I have written all that I can share with you. Till then ……….
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发表于 27-10-2009 16:51:22|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
格式有點亂。

LZ 這是原創嗎?
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发表于 27-10-2009 16:57:30|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
吾E文不好
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发表于 27-10-2009 18:39:27|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
格式有點亂。

LZ 這是原創嗎?
sysg 发表于 2009-10-27 16:51



    这是受我之邀请,写的股市原创文章。作者是:新加坡本地老股民,30年炒股经验。

也就是那个我的原创帖子【我和新加坡本地老股民股经一席谈】里面的被访者。

他的中文会讲,会看,不会打字。

你们好好学学,好好读读,经验之谈。

至于格式,因为他是使用的word文档写的。word里面的格式,不一定适合论坛格式,所以,就显得有点乱。这个是100%的原创。我连格式都没有替他编辑过。
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发表于 27-10-2009 18:42:17|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
吾E文不好
fireleg6688 发表于 2009-10-27 16:57


我就是邀请一篇英文帖子发来给你这个博士看的,你竟敢说你E英文不好?

你博士英文都不好,我们怎么办?
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发表于 27-10-2009 19:41:40|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 fireleg6688 于 27-10-2009 19:48 编辑

回复 6# 老鼠爱小米


吾的母,米版居然【专门】邀人发吻给吾,可见离收吾为徒不远了,你们都别站着看,快点煽风点火对火某支持一下,事成之后,按字数折成股份分红的~

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这下子好了,原来的格式好乱。。。
谢lz拨冗创作,吾等小鱼小虾感激不禁呐!
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发表于 27-10-2009 19:56:21|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
每个有经验的投资者都认同买股票要有正确的理财投资观念,持久的耐性,长期的持有,还有对所购买公司的了解,短期操作就是赌博等等,我非常同意老前辈的观点,也感谢他分享30年的投资心得,我看了还是受益良多,谢谢版主的用心良苦。
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发表于 27-10-2009 20:01:17|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
他的级别低,编辑不了,你们就原谅吧,凑合着看,不要打击别人第一次发贴的积极性。

我再帮他编辑一下格式。word文档到了帖子里面似乎就乱套了。
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发表于 27-10-2009 20:02:58|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
每个有经验的投资者都认同买股票要有正确的理财投资观念,持久的耐性,长期的持有,还有对所购买公司的了解 ...
靚剑 发表于 2009-10-27 19:56



    还是你懂我的心。没有白挺你的头像一回。他们啦,不知好歹的。
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