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发表于 2-8-2011 21:04:02|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 transformers 于 2-8-2011 21:05 编辑
SG_lion 发表于 2-8-2011 20:53
His insolence was an utter abomination.

I have Chinese friends and colleagues who behave very dif ...


Yup, that's why I comment that student as 'said something wrong and something right, in wrong time and place.'

Nowadays, lots of teenagers do as they please and cannot size up the situation.
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发表于 2-8-2011 21:09:42|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
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Notsing 发表于 2-8-2011 20:56
I betcha he'll try to wait out a generation or two, and hope that his own locals would put up with ...

Haha, hope locals are patient to wait for that day to come.

Putting up with is a must as cultural difference exists in different cities of China, too.

As a developed city's citizen, we must put up with some difference.

For me, I respect all of my fellows no matter where they come from while some people hold prejudice to others.

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I find consolation to this post of yours. There will be much lesser friction if respect becomes central towards the handling of relationships.  详情 回复 发表于 2-8-2011 21:35
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发表于 2-8-2011 21:29:07|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 transformers 于 2-8-2011 21:36 编辑
Notsing 发表于 2-8-2011 21:09
It was mainly a wrong time, plus there were other factors that he was not aware of, like the anger ...


That's a lesson for that student and also a chance for locals to listen to foreigners' opinion.

Nobody dares to be so rude to locals except for that 'daring' student.

Might be both-win if you look at it from another angle.

One of points that student's said, taxi driver story, should be true as I came across a simliar story, in which the Chinese Singaporean taxi driver told me that he didn't like carrying Indians. Concluding from that, some taxi drivers are less educated. PAP should take more measures to educate taxi drivers as they get lots of opportunites to meet foreigners. If they do something like that, Singapore will leave a bad impression to foreigners.


In Chinese, 初生牛犊不怕虎,Singaporeans再想听类似的异议,也不是常有机会的。对于有些比较真切的观点,不妨反思一下。

当然,不是强迫任何人去反思, although I am that sort of person who likes to hear criticism from others.

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发表于 2-8-2011 21:34:07|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
Notsing 发表于 2-8-2011 19:16
跟他玩玩,挺过颍的!

才骂你两句就觉得挺"过颖“啊?难道你就是来找”过颖“的??
哥白天上班忙真没时间跟你吵,现在有空了也懒的和你吵,以下语录皆出自你:


我可沒在這宣戰,可這Singapore v. PRC showdown 早以你們一個兩個點燃了。我是乘熱鬧看戯而已。My prediction: PRC will kick ass, they are already winning when it comes to anything sing! 日本美國不一樣,他們沒糊塗,kinda sucks to be a sing I guess, ah well, you can always try emigrating to Oz or NZ!


哎呀!為什麽大陸人縂是把全球華裔當作自己的公民呢?這有點像納粹德國的政策,把全球徳裔指定為自己人,令他們聼從納粹黨的話。美國徳裔也不聼他們的,還在歐洲反打了他們! 總而言之,華裔不是中共公民,不屬于中國大陸,臺灣人更不例外。
這是民主主義101,自由人民活的不是你們的人,死了也不是你們的鬼!This racial shit is getting old comrade...


印尼有兩种華裔,第一种是富豪傢子弟,那些人總是財勢都有,人家反華都不敢反到他們那兒,一旦出了事,他們總是跑到新加坡美國那種地方,人家是動不到他們的。第二就是窮華人,那些縂被人欺負,可是,印尼人也有很多種族糾紛,不指是華人中,每個沒錢的受罪。這不是單純的種族問題,總體來説是個第三世界國家社會的問題。不要忘了,那些窮回教華人沒受干擾,就表明這問題不是種族引起,而是跟政治有密切關係。日本和韓國人也沒被攻擊,新加坡人也安然無恙。


歡迎來到第二十億世紀!有錢就是爽,沒錢就收罪!中國也不例外,他們抄的更猛呢!
我生境還安然,比我有錢的朋友們也對我滿好,我有空就貼上一些家裏的照片,讓你們欣賞欣賞吧!


Who gives a shit if your chineeeeeeeese is that good or bad? If chinese was that important as a global langauge, you won't have to jump through hoops to get a visa and eke out a living in sunny sing would you?? On the other hand, having a decent command of the English langauge is a must, everyone knows that and if you're too dumb figure it out, hey! I guess that's why you clean latrines overseas for a living right? and if you think that the world can't see through your lame-assed efforts to hegemonize Asia (even at this relatively weak stage militarily compared to Japan, the ROK and the US), good luck when you start sending those 30-plane carriers into the spratlys! Anyway, your bad debts and hyper-inflation back on the mainland is starting to bite you in the ass already, good luck maintaining stability given the shitty system you bozos have!


For starters, I've seen your ID cards before, and the place of birth is listed in it, so you can see who's born in sing and who's from the PRC. Secondly, its not the sings who want to be PRC citizens, its the PRCs who keep claming that since singapore is made up mainly of "chinese", they somehow "belong" to China (just as quickly as they are to deny sing "chinese" people any rights and privileges accorded to their citizens and corporations), much the same shit they're applying to Taiwan, and through their proxy north korea, to the ROK. You might be a PRC apologist all you want, but even a guy like you can't deny sing is a seperate sovereign state far away and culturally distinct from mainland china.

我就不明白了:
怎么两三个人吵嘴到你这里就成Singapore v. PRC showdown 了?你受日本军国主义毒害很深是不是?
骂你两句就是跟新加坡人为敌了?政府就要来吊销的我pass送我回国了?? 别意淫了。。洗洗睡吧
大陆人什么时候当全球华裔都是自己的公民了?since singapore is made up mainly of "chinese", they somehow "belong" to China. 这个也是你自己说的吧?原来你除了能代表新加坡以外还可以代表所有大陆人民?!!
For starters, I've seen your ID cards before, and the place of birth is listed in it, so you can see who's born in sing and who's from the PRC.你爷爷或者你爷爷的爷爷也是中国人吧?换到你在新加坡出生长大血统就变的比中国人好了??不屑与中国人为伍了?


另对其他观众道歉,不好意思污染你们的眼球了。哥其实是gentleman...生活中从来不讲脏话...


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发表于 2-8-2011 21:40:23|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
SG_lion  I find consolation to this post of yours. There will be much lesser friction if respect becomes central towards the handling of relationships.


Thanks and think so, too.
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发表于 2-8-2011 21:57:39|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 transformers 于 2-8-2011 22:01 编辑
Notsing 发表于 2-8-2011 21:45
To be frank, the whole anti-immigrant thing is pretty prevalent everywhere these days, and its not ...


Yup, haha, agree. But that's hard to change. There must be a group of people to take those low-level jobs. That group pf people are Indians, Chinese PRC and Bangladesh people as locals are unwilling or incapable (such as house building) to do that. The reason why Chinese PRC has become the No.1 target for locals to express anger to is because the number of Chinese PRC Lee Kuan Yew imports is much larger than the number of Indians and Bangladesh people. But it's hard to change, too, as Lee Kuan Yew is Chinese (I don't mean Chinese PRC.), hence, Chinese PRC might be favored to Indians or Banglangladesh people by him.
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发表于 2-8-2011 22:06:38|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
yeah i kindda old, coming to 40.
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发表于 2-8-2011 22:10:16|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
本帖最后由 transformers 于 2-8-2011 22:10 编辑

'This trait: When Chinese guys get old, they actually become ALOT more Chinese than they ever were, with expressions of love and connectedness with the old country way beyond anything they displayed when they were young. I think someone is going through that phase now, thus the liberal immigration policy towards PRC entrants.'


Hahaha, that's a very good point. 很多人讲李光耀是审时度势,觉得中国发展了,所以才要靠拢。当然,这点不可否认,确实是一个很重要的原因。不过,就移民政策来讲,作为华人的他,倾向性上,更倾向于华人。很多人说他忘记祖先,我觉得他的行为表明,至少他有一颗华人的心。
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发表于 2-8-2011 22:12:44|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
sun814 发表于 2-8-2011 22:06
yeah i kindda old, coming to 40.




四十,如今称为壮年。NOT OLD AT ALL...
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发表于 2-8-2011 22:16:12|来自:新加坡 | 显示全部楼层
Chat for further when getting another chance. Going to KL tomorrow. See you all & good night.:)
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